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Ohm RGB Slim Script freezing + Steppr’s not working.

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  • #839
    louiters
    Member

    Hi,

    I don’t if this is the right place or if I should post it on the official Livid forum ?
    I’ve been using an Ohm RGB Slims for some time, and I’m experiencing a problem : from time to time, randomly, the controller freezes, and the only way to get back to functionality is unplug and plug the USB cable – but when I do that, it will freeze my audio interface (Motu Ultralite Mk3 hybrid).

    I also can’t make the Steppr work on my controller. I’ve downloaded all the latest scripts and max for live devices, but when I press the Gary button, I can’t get nothing.

    Thanks for your support !
    The Ohm RGB is a great controller, but this freezing problem is really annoying.
    I’m working on MacOS, with Ableton Live 10.1.6. When the freezing problem happens, CPU charge isn’t really high (around 30%), so I guess it doesn’t come from here.

    Thanks,

    Louis

    #884
    amounra
    Participant

    Hey there Louis,

    You’re in the right place. I wrote the scripts and m4l devices for Livid long ago, and still try to support them when possible. The Livid forums haven’t been functioning correctly for some time. I’ll do whatever I can to help you from here.

    I may need you to send me a copy of your log.txt file from Ableton’s preferences. It sounds like maybe you’re hitting an error that I haven’t seen on my end. Likely an easy fix, but I’ll need to know what the error is.

    The log.txt file is in your preferences folder, ~/Library/Preferences/Ableton/Live 10.1.6/log.txt.

    If you can zip that up and email it to me, I can have a look and see if I can find a problem with the script. It’s best if you do this immediately after you experience the freezing situation.

    As far as the steppr’s go, they are working on my machine. I would recommend two things: first, make sure you’re linked to the most current build of MaxMSP in your Ableton settings. Second, make sure the you don’t have multiple copies of the aumhaa or steppr files one your computer. Most of the time, it’s this second problem that prevents it from working correctly. We can revisit that, though, once we get the script problem figured out ;)

    a

    #885
    louiters
    Member

    Hey amounra,

    Thanks for your answer, and your support with the controllers ! They are wonderful and very complete, so it’s great that you keep updating them.
    I’m sending you the log.txt file right now, the freezing problem just occurred again. Generally, it happens when I stop touching the controller for some time, as if it was some kind of standby mode.

    I’ve probably downloaded several versions of the steppr’s indeed, I will delete them all, download the latest again, and check if it works better !

    Thanks,
    Louis

    #886
    louiters
    Member

    I’ve sent the file on your gmail address!

    #887
    louiters
    Member

    Hey,

    I’ve just noticed something else I can’t explain : when the Script for Ohm RGB is loaded, does it still send notes ?
    I explain : I got MIDI Out from Ableton through my interface, then to Digitone, then to Digitakt. It’s only to send MIDI clock and transport to them.
    But, when I press the Gary Button, it triggers one MIDI channel and one sample channel from my Digitakt. I’ve checked, and this channel is set on MIDI channel 3. However, when I change the MIDI channel setting to another number, the Gary Button still triggers that same track.
    I really don’t understand ! Do you have a clue ?

    Thanks !

    #888
    louiters
    Member

    So, as for the latest problem, I could avoid it either by deactivating “receive MIDI notes” on my Digitakt, or by deactivating “Remote” on the output of my interface MIDI port in Live’s preferences.
    But I still don’t understand what happens. Is the Gary Button sending a note on all MIDI channels ? But then, why is the rest of my gear (which is receiving the same MIDI information as my Digitakt, since it’s the same chain) not affected ?

    Sorry for the multiple post ! I will try not to ask too many questions :)

    Thanks

    #889
    amounra
    Participant

    Thanks for sending the log! I do see some errors showing up in the log.txt, but nothing that should be fatal. Additionally, I don’t see the same errors in the logs on my machines when using the script so I highly suspect that you still have the incorrect versions of the scripts installed in your local Ableton bundle. This is almost always the cause when I see these types of problems.

    I’ve also double checked the current build of drumsteppr, and it’s working fine.

    What I might suggest is starting from scratch:

    1. Install a new copy of Ableton Live 10.1.6. (you don’t need to delete your old one, but you should rename it and put it inside a folder somewhere inside your applications folder. It’s fine to have multiple copies of Live on a Mac, I do it all the time to test different scripting setups ;) )

    2. Download m4m8 from the repository: https://github.com/aumhaa/m4m8.

    3. Install the scripts per the instructions. Make sure to install ALL of the scripts from both Python_Scripts and Livid_Python_Scripts folders.

    4. Do a factory reset on the OhmRGB, just to make sure that everything is in the state the script expects.

    5. Work for a while with it this way, and see if you can get the controller to freeze up. If you can, send me another log.txt. If not, we’ll move on to getting the stepprs working for you ; )

    In response to your other questions:
    >when the Script for Ohm RGB is loaded, does it still send notes ?
    Generally, the script is not going to allow the passthrough of notes to Ableton unless you are in “modMode” (the Gary button is toggled) and a modDevice (i.e. steppr) is NOT currently the selected device in Live.

    When modMode is on and no modDevice is selected, the grid buttons send note messages to Live. The six buttons next to Gary work as a channel offset to the grid buttons. This way, you can use them to UserMap up to 64×6 different functions in Live.

    Regarding the Digitakt, I’ll have to do some thinking…I may not totally understand your situation. Let me know if you can give me some more info, but it sounds like something coming from the Ohm is being mirrored through Ableton to it. It would be helpful if you could post a screenshot of your MIDI Settings in Live ;)

    a

    #890
    louiters
    Member

    Thanks so much for all the input !
    I’ll be doing that right away.

    Could you just explain to me how to do the factory reset in the Ohm RGB Slim, please ?
    I did not quite get it from what I read in the Wiki page.

    #891
    amounra
    Participant

    Sorry for getting back so late, I’ve been out of town for a while!

    I haven’t needed to do a reset in a long time, so I was surprised when the online editor didn’t work for me right away. A bit of research and found out that the Livid Online Editor doesn’t appear to be supported by any current browsers due to its use of NPAPI. Every browser has phased this out due to security concerns presumably.

    To get the online editor to work, I’d recommend trying to use it on an older browser, anything prior to Safari 12 I think will work?

    The online editor is here:

    https://lividinstruments.com/editor_2017/

    and instructions are here:

    http://wiki.lividinstruments.com/wiki/Online_Editor

    You may have to download the Jazz plugin to get things working, here’s a link:

    https://jazz-soft.net/download/Jazz-Plugin/

    None of that works on a modern browser, though, so your best bet might be to first try to use the maxmsp based editor applications, found here:

    http://lividinstruments.com/support_downloads.php

    I have one computer that will run it, and another that won’t….let me know if you can’t get it to work and I can see if our problems are the same, and figure out how to fix it.

    To do a factory reset, you should just have to get the controller connected, then do a “reset to defaults” and “save to controller”, the buttons should be at the top I think.

    #946
    Yohnel
    Member

    Everything is ok with Live 10.1.15 B)

    #947
    amounra
    Participant

    Awesome! No real changes to framework in the last couple of bug fix release versions (10.1.13-10.1.15) so I’d assume nothing should be broken, but thanks for the feedback!

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